Parkland students guest edit the Guardian, and this is their manifesto to fix America’s gun laws. I believe these requests are reasonable.
After the massacre at our high school, our lives have changed forever – so we’re proposing these changes to halt mass shootings:
Ban semi-automatic weapons that fire high-velocity rounds
Ban accessories that simulate automatic weapons
Establish a database of gun sales and universal background checks
Change privacy laws to allow mental healthcare providers to communicate with law enforcement
Close gun show and secondhand sales loopholes
Allow the CDC to make recommendations for gun reform
Raise the firearm purchase age to 21
Dedicate more funds to mental health research and professionals
Increase funding for school security
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2018/mar/23/parkland-students-manifesto-americas-gun-laws
© 2026 – SoulSequel
53 responses to “All this gun debate noise…this is what the kids are asking for…”
They are reasonable requests. With none of them being the NRA fear “That they’re coming to take your guns”.
The only troublesome one is school security. For now it may well be necessary. But it sets a dangerous precident, where law-abiding citizens need to be locked up and protected. Once implemented, it will be very hard to claw back “when” it’s no longer necessary. Plus it has unintended negative affect on young and impressionable minds
The biggie, is to not just allow . . . but to require the CDC to do proper scientific research into the uniquely-American phenomenon at hand and give some critical analysis to the nation’s leaders based on sound scientific studies.
Right now, even though Obama “lifted restrictions”, researchers are afraid for their careers and even their loved ones lives at the hand of gun-nuts.
@griz One of the things they could do for school safety is to replace the windows with bullet proof windows. There is a school in Indiana that only spent $400,000 to make their school safer, and they didn’t arm teachers.
Cameras with a direct feed to the county sheriff office. Teachers who wear panic buttons. Smoke cannons in hallways.
Here is more information:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/22/safest-school-america-indiana/362210002/
@Stormy
A shotgun slug will go through the “bullet proof” window.
You people and your useless feel good efforts.
@Weenis Really? I heard you were smart, it doesn’t appear that you are.
he glass in those videos is bulletproof glass, a composition of layers of glass alternating with polycarbonate sheets, which gives the glass extra durability and the awesome ability to resist penetration by those bullets. You can even see that some of the bullets hit in the same area of the glass, attesting to the toughness that a little bit of plastic confers. (And the chances that some people are willing to take for a viral video.)
http://ceramics.org/ceramic-tech-today/armored-vehicle-maker-trusts-bulletproof-glass-to-stop-ak-47-bullets
@Stormy
https://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-6-ballistic-resistant-glass-gets-tested/
Study up grasshopper.
Just cause it stops an AK doesn’t mean it stops a 12 gauge slug. Physics and crap.
@Weenis If it can stop some of the carnage, then good. Why do you care, you keep your kids locked up in the house.
@Gina
Because there’s no evidence that “it can stop some of the carnage”.
I care, because as a tax payer, my hard earned money is stolen from me and goes to pay for this liberal feel good nonsense.
In regards to my children, they will be much safer than all the children of irresponsible parents that require the rest of society to pay for and raise their kids.
@Weenis If you listened to the people who survived these shootings, you could learn a thing or two. What do you think of the the things this school in Indiana did?
The school was outfitted with bulletproof doors, hallway cameras that feed directly to the local sheriff’s office, and even ceiling smoke canisters that can be detonated in hallways to visually impair an attacker or active shooter.
The top-of-the-line security system—which can be activated in the event of an emergency by teachers who wear special key fobs—has been called “revolutionary” and is reported to have cost $400,000. It was installed after the Indiana Sheriff’s Association selected the school as a test site.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2015/09/15/safest-school-in-america-has-400k-security-system-should-other-schools-catch-up/
@Weenis
It would still prevent a shooter from entering and slow them down enough for easier containment, or if you like for an armed teacher or teachers to take position, & those little innocent kiddies could take cover.
@luftballooneyegouge
You’re right. It would prevent the shooter from entering through a window… cause that’s a common theme with all the mass shootings.
@Weenis
Image Search: school doors
@luftballooneyegouge
@Weenis
Image Search: School Doors (not woodframe doors without stops in the jambs)
You couldn’t kick in a school door because of the reinforced steel frames, jambs, & stops & the fact they swing out from entry not in.
…. but you don’t care if kids are killed as much as you care about your hobby.
@Weenis
@Stormy
Gelled Corn Syrup in a latex rubber container!!!!!
@luftballooneyegouge The YouTube shooter (Nasim) was an Iranian born member of the Baha’i community in San Diego. I’m going to get me a bunch of Stretch Armstrongs and sew them together to make a Stretch Armstrong vest!!! The Liberal agenda is even pissing off the peace-loving Baha’is and making mild mannered people want to react violently.
@ladybarbara Did you watch any of her videos? Blaming liberals is wrong and so typical of you. She was pissed off at youtube for banning some of her videos, and she was a fanatic about animals. Have you forgotten the teachings of your religion?
@Gina
I watched her videos.
She was a nutso liberal vegan, raised in a muzzy family, feminist, and idiot.
Again, this is another instance where people were informed prior of the event, and people did nothing.
@Weenis
… but you’re against mental screening checks?
@ladybarbara
Sounds like you’re planning on doing something so violent that you’ll need bullet-proof body armor,…. because liberals…….?
What exactly are liberals doing that’s making people violent enough to shoot people they’ve never met?
@Stormy
Have your nipples always been asymmetric?
@luftballooneyegouge Ask our president.
@Stormy
….before the Fox & Friends Superfan.
…. before the implants.
@Stormy
The view from every other civilized first world nation is that such things would not be needed in the first place if had not been allowed to become such a religion in the US.
@griz
@Weenis
Do you have a specific logistical disagreement with what I offered?
Or is your dislike purely emotional?
@griz
All of your suggested proposals are infringements that are easily open to abuse, and have no evidence of resolving anything.
@Weenis
Most of your assertions are blindness.
The evidence of it resolving anything rests in the hands of the CDC, which the NRA has effectively intimidated and muzzled.
So we’re back again to the very great snowflake right of not having mistaken notions subject to the ickiness of empirical data and critical scientific analysis unto workable solutions.
As you yourself have implied, the intrusion of such points of reality, would be “an infringement” and “an abuse”!
So join the snowflake conga line!
No.
@Weenis This is sooo coooooool!!!
@ladybarbara
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang. So efficient and scary looking.
@Weenis
I wanna x-wing receiver?
Make it happen!
@luftballooneyegouge
Quick check, I couldn’t find an x-wing receiver. I did find a Tie Fighter receiver.
@Weenis
I mean I want you to fabricate a receiver that takes 4 clips atta time. Quad-barrel?
@luftballooneyegouge
You’d be better off using a shotgun.
More than 1 barrel is pointless.
@Weenis
4 clips atta time is pointless too but that’s not the point….
@luftballooneyegouge
Exactly. It’s all about doing what you want. So if that’s what you want to do, then do it.
@Weenis
If you do it, I don’t have to worry about all the squibs.
@Weenis Next year they are adding a cat flinger accessory to it.
@ladybarbara Then it’s true what I read about you on the internet. You harm cats with guns. Gosh, the internet is so full of real information, isn’t it?
@Stormy That is why a catapult is called a cat-a-pult. You have to use it for the reason it was invented in the first place.
@ladybarbara
Some guy said:
“Burden not an animal with more than it can bear. We, truly, have prohibited such treatment through a most binding interdiction in the Book. Be ye the embodiments of justice and fairness amidst all creation.”
“Briefly, it is not only their fellow human beings that the beloved of God must treat with mercy and compassion, rather must they show forth the utmost loving-kindness to every living creature. For in all physical respects, and where the animal spirit is concerned, the selfsame feelings are shared by animal and man. Man hath not grasped this truth, however, and he believeth that physical sensations are confined to human beings, wherefore is he unjust to the animals, and cruel…. The feelings are one and the same, whether ye inflict pain on man or on beast…. And indeed ye do worse to harm an animal, for man hath a language, he can lodge a complaint, he can cry out and moan; if injured he can have recourse to the authorities and these will protect him from his aggressor. But the hapless beast is mute, able neither to express its hurt nor take its case to the authorities…. Therefore is it essential that ye show forth the utmost consideration to the animal, and that ye be even kinder to him than to your fellow man.”
@luftballooneyegouge
@ladybarbara
You’ll never find a drone big enough for Dent Dekulve.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/americas/us-gun-statistics/index.htm
This issue is much bigger than hoping that regulations can manage. It’s about the existence of a culture where control is everything and to think control can manage control issues is, unfortunately, ludicrous.
The “threat” effect of controls on purchasing/owning guns actually stimulates people to buy now, before it gets potentially harder. Happens every time. There is a buying spike.
It’s way past the point of no return. The guns are there.
A focus has to be made on why the culture has been so firmly entrenched. You guys live in an anomaly that has to be driven by something and that something seems to be in a belief associated with a sense of control.
The evidence is clear. You start with believing that America is a land where you are in control through having the tools to be in control. Those that feel threatened, and that is virtually all of you, buy tools to ensure that sense of control. When that sense is threatened, you turn to your tools.
After 9-11, (and many examples before) the big tools were used in Iraq, when things settled somewhat there, they were used in Afghanistan. It is the identical reaction when a kid (or a frustrated adult) sees his control being usurped and he goes home, gets a weapon and reasserts his need to feel in control.
Taking the guns away is not going to solve everything. Managing expectations at the very difficult cultural level would be a start, however, trying to convince people to give up control, to take control, is an extremely difficult concept to consider as a solution. It’s oxymoronic, when you look at it from the inside out, which is the only way it can been looked at in America.
Great civilizations come and go. We evolve, we peak, we decline as the next one climbs and the cycle repeats. We all have yet to learn by our mistakes. Does America have the means by which to be the first to learn by observation of mistakes illustrated at the global level? It doesn’t appear that way. Sure, there are individuals who can see it, just like there are individuals that won’t. To get it to the cultural level is probably impossible.
Hopefully the Ginas don’t give up, as the Weenii’s won’t give up.
The kids who are trying right now can’t give up, but the Peaceniks of the 60’s did and they were a force to be reckoned with until they got tempted as the Yuppies they became. Not sure those options are available to the kids today.
@spitfire3dc There are many things that need to occur to curb the violence. I think their kids manifesto is brilliant as it touches on many things like funding mental health, funding the CDC, change privacy laws to allow mental healthcare providers to communicate with law enforcement. The ACLU will have a field day with that one, and I am an ACLU supporter.
Did you hear about the school in Indiana that spent $400,000 making their school safer, and it didn’t arm the teachers.
The school outfitted with bulletproof doors, hallway cameras that feed directly to the local sheriff’s office, and even ceiling smoke canisters that can be detonated in hallways to visually impair an attacker or active shooter.
The top-of-the-line security system—which can be activated in the event of an emergency by teachers who wear special key fobs—has been called “revolutionary” and is reported to have cost $400,000. It was installed after the Indiana Sheriff’s Association selected the school as a test site.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2015/09/15/safest-school-in-america-has-400k-security-system-should-other-schools-catch-up/
@Gina No disrespect intended but you just illustrated my point exactly regarding this American orientation towards a belief that a mechanism can be created to defend against an issue occurring. Bullet proof windows and tear gas, versus trying to get to the real root of why a person would want to shoot up a school.
Try to really step out of your skin. Your culture has many positive attributes that are a two edged sword. You are confident, assertive and creative. Add to that a seasoning of aggressive…and I don’t mean physically, more as mentally intentional… and results oriented, Americans have a tendency to look at how to resolve issues, by overpowering the opposition.
I think of you as a very open minded person, but I wonder if you can really see the point I am trying to make. I’m asking you specifically to try, because if I can’t communicate to you what I mean; then maybe all is actually beyond repair.
This is as concisely as I can try to make my point: An understanding of why a person would want to kill, has to take precedence over trying to manage the devices that they choose to use to kill…and the choices do not stop with devices that project metal at high velocity. Just ask Timothy McVeigh.
@spitfire3dc The mechanic measures would help prevent kids getting killed if a shooter is in the building. I agree this doesn’t solve society’s problem we have with our gun culture. The kids are addressing much of the mental attributes with these suggestions:
Change privacy laws to allow mental healthcare providers to communicate with law enforcement
Allow the CDC to make recommendations for gun reform
Dedicate more funds to mental health research and professionals
As I have stated many times before, this issue is interconnected to so many of our issues. Making the schools safer is one thing, but obviously not the thing that will stop the gun violence.
@Gina Thanks for reading and responding as one of the few voices of reason.
and you’re right about the interconnectedness. Complex issues can rarely be solved with simple solutions.
You should look up Nas Daily on Facebook. He’s a vlogger who does a one minute video as he travels around the world. His intent appears to deliver positive and uplifting messages through direct contact with all nationalities.
Today’s was interesting. Fundamentally suggesting that we can’t judge all people of a specific country, by one illustration we might be exposed to. My belief is that there are more people like you, than the closed minded that seems to be the latest image du jour. Stay resolute.
@spitfire3dc I am now subscribed to Nas Daily on Youtube. Thank you for the light!
They won’t ban hi-velocity semi-auto, but I could see them getting the rest.
Banning schools and educating brats over computers solves:
School Massacres
Transgender Bathroomaggeddonnn Fox & Friend Fears
Religious Holiday Semanticrisis Fox & Friend Fears
School Cafeteria
Kids getting mugged on the way home for their lap-pads by junkies
8am/3pm Traffic Jams
Breaking the Laws of Physics by goin’ up hill, both ways (2’ofSnowOptional)
Poor Pay for Teachers could be remedied by splitting the money that was going to go to buildings & building maintenance. They could travel tutoring the dumb brats at home to solve the shame they feel for being so stupid in public, & not develop the coping mechanism of being shamelessly stupid.
Oh and having to go through watching other kids eat fucking paste!!!!!!!!
@luftballooneyegouge I think we should just blame Canada.
@Gina