Article titled “It’s Time to Make Human-Chimp Hybrids” proposes that it’s time to create hybrids. This is a chapter out of an upcoming book that will be published by Oxford University Press.
So, I would ask, is it time for Human-Chimp hybrids? Is this ethical? Why or why not?
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16 responses to “Article Title: “It’s Time to Make Human-Chimp Hybrids””
Why? I don’t want to read this. Why the F would we need to “evolve” backwards? I don’t want cloned animals, self-driving cars, AI. I am glad I am getting old.
@Gina
Because, as the author points out-
@Weenis :\
@Gina
On what basis do you oppose it?
@Weenis :O
We think this is a good idea only because we’ve become lop-sided in our thinking. Both along the lines of matter vs spirit, and in thinking that just because we can do something we should.
Yes, the biology is similar.
But the philosophy . . . is absent in chimps.
So I wonder exactly what it is they’re trying to deconstruct . . . any for what reason? You can learn only so much by tearing a human apart into component bits. There comes a point where you cannot tear anything else apart and will learn nothing new — because you’ve destroyed the subject.
“Professing themselves to be wise, they became more and more foolish”
I think it is unethical to create any conscious/sentient beings. As for if this is more or less ethical than anything else, I can’t say. It depends on how the creature feels. If it suffers more than other life, then it would be unethical. If there is no ecosystem for them, then it would be pretty unethical in that way as well. Overall, I wouldn’t try it.
@yin
I wonder if we have to wait for a bad situation to develop before applying ethics? Ie, to see if the creature is suffering or has no habitat or niche.
I think for ethics to be ethics, there needs to be an element of stopping folly before we start it
We seem to be trending towards more and more unethical creatures. We “do”, just because we can. And apply regrets later.
I think even chimps are wiser than this.
@griz I think we can predict it well enough. I’m no scientist, but I do know there will be suffering in the species’ future. If that animal we create doesn’t suffer, fine. If we continue the species, they will inevitably suffer at some point. They will also have to go through their extinction event. That can be as instant and painless as possible with an asteroid, or it can be something as terrible as drowning with a flood or starvation. None of these things have to happen though if we just don’t create them. Scientists though, they can at least have a better chance at determining if the area would be fine for the foreseeable future and maybe what the first create feels/goes through. It is mainly the other things that bother me. The things people just don’t take into account. The inevitable suffering and death of a species that just didn’t need to be created to begin with.
@yin
Everything that lives knows suffering and death. It’s just a part of the equation.
But I would assert that we need a better understanding and Philosophy for dealing with it. We don’t need to add to it . . . By suffering over the fact that suffering exists!
And as for that poor little perspective hybrid? Where would we put something inheriting the foibles of humanity and the strength of a chimp? ( conservatively 3 times ours).
A classroom?
a bedroom?
A zoo?
A cage?
Released to the wild?
No. I don’t think we can default to the scientists on this. Because any that would consider such an experiment are thinking more with their ambition than their logic.
I don’t think it is ethical, if such sub-humans are used by us humans for service of some sort. Slavery is wrong on so many levels.
However, I once knew an ape that could talk in hand gestures, like the finger language of the deaf. Koko was being kept in a lab and his attendants (the Middletons) lived in a house next to the lab. It was in the 1990’s when Koko had a kitten of his very own. Koko was a very intelligent ape. He had to live his life in a laboratory. He did get to live in the house with the Middletons, but when I came to clean the house and lab cage, Koko had to be locked up. It was very touching to me that as I picked up my cleaning tools and prepared to leave, Koko asked for water. I gave him a cup of water. As I went to the door to leave, Koko poured the water on the floor, in a plea for me to come back and clean up the puddle of water. He was sad to see me leave. I felt sorry for a creature that was so aware and intelligent —- having to live locked away from a normal ape life. He was not human, nor an animal to live in a zoo. I don’t think it is right to create sub-human half aware beings.
This is where a lightening bolt should hit this post. “Don’t mess with Mother Nature!!!”
Pupbabies.
@Gina That is awful — and wrong on so many levels.
@ladybarbara It would be awful if this was real. It’s a doll, and you can get your very own at this site. They make all kinds. They are eerily real looking, and quite creepy with a touch of cute.
http://www.werepups.com/
Human/ Chimp hybrids already exist…they’re called LIBERAL DEMOCRATS.
@immortal_pirate Oh how I don’t miss Junior High humor. You can do better than this.