As a side note to this question… note that the signs do not prohibit the person entering that intersection from going straight up into the atmosphere, waiting for the earth to turn, and reentering it at some other location, so while escape is not truly impossible, it certainly would be difficult!
@Jear77
And just because something is difficult doesn’t mean it isn’t also a very good process to pursue. Like escaping from that dastardly trap-intersection!
In fact, some of the best things in life can be very difficult to realize.
Some of them physically difficult, some intellectually difficult . . . but often it is our emotions, feelings and ego that are the most difficult things to overcome.
@griz sometimes… sometimes not.
Let’s say a person gets kidnapped and killed. Even fighting back against their captors is useless, because of whatever factors involved. Are you saying that those who did so “did it to themselves?”
@Jear77
You may just be looking for reasons why “death wins” [a.k.a. is “almighty”]
People can take things from me that were going to be taken from me regardless. But I have been given every choice in not being imprisoned/captivated by this fear-of-the-inevitable.
To not make full use of this amazing gift that has been made available to me, would mean “I would be doing it to myself” if I let myself become imprisoned/captivated by this fear.
And I know you may not be able to receive this, because I am growing more and more convinced that you’ve never really known what Christ’s salvation is — or the spiritual effect it can and does have on one’s life.
@griz Actually, you’re putting your own fear onto me. Do I CARE if i die? No – this is not to say I’m suicidal, this is simply an acknowledgement of my own mortality. Do i WANT to die? No, I’ll do what I can to avoid it if I can. But if I’m actually DEAD… it won’t matter one way or the other if that’s the case because it matters nothing in the grand scheme of things.
@Jear77
I cannot put on you something I no longer carry.
I think there is a considerable difference between resignation (no choice) and acceptance (choice).
And ARE you doing what you can to avoid remaining in spiritual death? Most of what you offer sounds like someone looking for excuses to avoid taking the first step away from something you’ve mostly just resigned yourself to, but continually show much anger and resentment towards it being . . .
. . . perhaps not “what it is” but just “what you are convinced it must be” for your constructs to remain intact.
I’ve said in another post that Jesus has already done all the “heavy lifting” that we could not do. But we still have things to do; not the least of which are mastering the more foolish aspects of our pride and ego and accepting our role as “spiritual child”.
(But it’s still a fair sight easier than single-handedly defeating death!)
I think situation and choice have a role with any stuckness.
Being stuck against your would pose more difficult obstacles to seeing freedom – but not impossible. Judging by the survival stories that others share about their experience seems to prove that.
I think being stuck due to our own limitations or circumstances is more a choice.
11 responses to “Can you truly be stuck forever?”
As a side note to this question… note that the signs do not prohibit the person entering that intersection from going straight up into the atmosphere, waiting for the earth to turn, and reentering it at some other location, so while escape is not truly impossible, it certainly would be difficult!
@Jear77
And just because something is difficult doesn’t mean it isn’t also a very good process to pursue. Like escaping from that dastardly trap-intersection!
In fact, some of the best things in life can be very difficult to realize.
Some of them physically difficult, some intellectually difficult . . . but often it is our emotions, feelings and ego that are the most difficult things to overcome.
You can’t get there from here…lol
Only if you wish it.
And even then it will be a construct of your own making.
@griz sometimes… sometimes not.
Let’s say a person gets kidnapped and killed. Even fighting back against their captors is useless, because of whatever factors involved. Are you saying that those who did so “did it to themselves?”
@Jear77
You may just be looking for reasons why “death wins” [a.k.a. is “almighty”]
People can take things from me that were going to be taken from me regardless. But I have been given every choice in not being imprisoned/captivated by this fear-of-the-inevitable.
To not make full use of this amazing gift that has been made available to me, would mean “I would be doing it to myself” if I let myself become imprisoned/captivated by this fear.
And I know you may not be able to receive this, because I am growing more and more convinced that you’ve never really known what Christ’s salvation is — or the spiritual effect it can and does have on one’s life.
@griz Actually, you’re putting your own fear onto me. Do I CARE if i die? No – this is not to say I’m suicidal, this is simply an acknowledgement of my own mortality. Do i WANT to die? No, I’ll do what I can to avoid it if I can. But if I’m actually DEAD… it won’t matter one way or the other if that’s the case because it matters nothing in the grand scheme of things.
@Jear77
I cannot put on you something I no longer carry.
I think there is a considerable difference between resignation (no choice) and acceptance (choice).
And ARE you doing what you can to avoid remaining in spiritual death? Most of what you offer sounds like someone looking for excuses to avoid taking the first step away from something you’ve mostly just resigned yourself to, but continually show much anger and resentment towards it being . . .
. . . perhaps not “what it is” but just “what you are convinced it must be” for your constructs to remain intact.
I’ve said in another post that Jesus has already done all the “heavy lifting” that we could not do. But we still have things to do; not the least of which are mastering the more foolish aspects of our pride and ego and accepting our role as “spiritual child”.
(But it’s still a fair sight easier than single-handedly defeating death!)
@griz I would like you to drop the subject, please.
No. You can only THINK you’re stuck forever.
I think situation and choice have a role with any stuckness.
Being stuck against your would pose more difficult obstacles to seeing freedom – but not impossible. Judging by the survival stories that others share about their experience seems to prove that.
I think being stuck due to our own limitations or circumstances is more a choice.