I got the power

“I USED TO WANT TO SAVE THE WORLD. TO END WAR AND BRING PEACE TO MANKIND. BUT THEN, I GLIMPSED THE DARKNESS THAT LIVES WITHIN THEIR LIGHT. AND I LEARNED THAT INSIDE EVERY ONE OF THEM, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE BOTH. A CHOICE EACH MUST MAKE FOR THEMSELVES. SOMETHING NO HERO WILL EVER DEFEAT. AND NOW I KNOW, THAT ONLY LOVE CAN TRULY SAVE THE WORLD. SO I STAY, I FIGHT, AND I GIVE, FOR THE WORLD I KNOW CAN BE.”

-DIANA

47 responses to “I got the power”

  1. One mans hero is another mans monster…

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  2. Yaaahhh join the fandom! As a woman, I say it’s about time we also have a really cool superhero to look up to. And I don’t mean that in the feminist sense or anything, just the fact that I finally have a superhero I can associate myself with a little.

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    • Gina says:

      @georockstar09 I loved this movie, and I don’t care for the super hero movies with their way too long action scenes. They did this one right. I love that people of all ages dig this movie. Gal Gadot is an amazing human being.

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  3. griz says:

    Even in this quote — probably very well hashed out and thought-over — lies the crux of both our salvation and our condemnation: “But then, I glimpsed the darkness that lives within THEIR light”.

    We won’t make any progress at “fixing things” until more and more of us notice that it should read “OUR light”.

    Without this, one simply has the quote of a “princess” (ha ha!) levitating in their own mind above the rest of the race.

    Deep down, this is the core reason why we love entertainment (including newscasts) that showcases people failing and that puts “monsters” up on pedestals removed from “the rest of us” . . . to boo at in an attempt to “prove” they are not us and we are not them.

    We need to recognize that we all have light in us; but that it is tainted with a darkness that people of conscience (sanity?) are constantly struggling to keep in check. Right now, too much of our effort is wasted on trying to deny this and prove/assert that it is not so.

    This is the very heart of the thinking that spawns religions both of Deistic and secular thought . . .

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    • Yin says:

      @griz To be fair, she isn’t human and is talking about humans specifically. She sees the war humans are waged in and wants to create peace for them. Maybe you know this already or assumed something like it was the case, because I do see where you were going with it. These issues we face in real life is an “us” issue. We (all of us) are flawed and need to recognize it going forward. I get it. Just thought I’d clarify just in case.

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      • griz says:

        @yin
        I’ve only known the comic book version of the story; where the Amazonians were a branch of humanity.

        But I appreciate your candor and your correction. I’ll have to watch the movie and see what they are proposing the Amazons are in that universe.

        And interesting thought came to me from all of this. Even when we are contemplating mythologies, Deities, gods and godlings, demons\devils\tricksters, even aliens . . . we tend just to be contemplating different shades of humanity (ourselves).

        So what were societies saying about themselves with the Greek gods? The Norse gods? The various native mythologies?

        The Borg? The Klingons? The Ferengi?

        The Spaceballs?
        (Actually, scratch that last one unless you have a full psychological support team at your disposal!)

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz Interestingly enough you don’t pour that observation of mankind proclivities when it comes to “life” like you call it, as portrayed in the bible, seeing that the god portrayed therein is just yet another one made by man…

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        It’s interesting that you had it in your hands for so many years but never saw anything more than “just us”.

        The Old Testament is very much man trying to interpret God through themselves; making it on par with all other man made religions.

        That is why a new revelation — the Incarnation — was necessary. It was something far beyond “just us”; and invited thinking beyond just us.

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz obviously the invitation isn’t very… accessible for many, for it is the narrowest of any possible narrow gates.

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        It is something that someone has to want, more than any distraction or game of a dead and dying world.

        If it helps, consider the sheer number of vocations appointments and accomplishments in this dead and dying world that present a very narrow gate leaving them inaccessible to many. Fame, ” success”, riches, happiness, POTUS, CEO of a big company with a monster salary and golden parachute, successful artist, lottery winner. , ,
        There are many far narrower Gates out there than the one presented by Christ!

        This is nothing new or radical. Or nefarious. It’s simply life.

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz actually it’s the far most demanding of all the various gates, which is why I call it the narrowest. Complete surrender. Never questioning. Never disobeying. Never having a will of one’s own. Never being one’s own person, but simply being a puppet. Having the necessity of needing to force yourself into a mindset to be able to see the perfection and none of the problems. That’s never going to be for me. Ever.

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77

        How can you know?

        You only walked through the religion gate.

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz Actually not. The only way I will think about examining it is if I get my money. Yet another week has gone by and another $10,000 is added to my total. The current total is $160,000. This amount goes up irrespective of ANY other factors and will continue to go up until the day I die. So you better pray I win the lotto that I don’t play.

        That aside, because at heart even with stories I love I am a literary critic. I can’t help but asking literary questions such as how would have I done things differently? What’s missing here? What are the problems with this story? If this is supposed to be truth, why doesn’t the science back it up?

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        Science is an awesome tool for grasping physical things. Ultimate and objective Truth is probably not a physical thing.
        So science cannot grasp it.

        “What if things had happened differently” makes for a good story, but not a good life. And trying to hold life for ransom doesn’t make for a good life either! (It doesn’t even make a good story, except perhaps as a cautionary tale)

        One needs to separate leisure entertainment from life.

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz Oh? So the bible is somehow above literary criticism? (it’s actually more of an art than a science.) You’re saying that EVERY single sermon is null and void because they’re examining the text to see what they can get out of it to give a message of (supposed) peace, hope, truth, love to their congregation.

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        One can get a lot of life insight from the stories of others.

        But one cannot live their life within the stories of others.

        Whether what you read is of Education or entertainment, sooner or later you have to get your head out of them, put your feet on the ground, and start walking the path set before you.

        Consider the number of times I’ve pointed out to you that you are trying to walk the path of the ancient Hebrews; according to a covenant long fulfilled.

        It’s no wonder you grown so frustrated!

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz The point is that there are flaws, problems, and quirks that glaring which the christian will need to ignore in order to retain belief.. I can no longer overlook, excuse, or gloss them over.

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        For the person who thinks faith is of them awarding God something, they’ve already accepted the greatest of fallacies.

        ( and then they gather together in things called churches to celebrate this?)

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz your last post here wasn’t clear. While it might be in sentence form, your post conveys nothing.

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        One of the great things about freedom of choice, is that we can choose for meaningful things to have no meaning (or vice versa) . . . should we wish (or currently “need”) it.

        This is what gives us very great control over our inner kingdom; and perhaps even our destiny. This is why we really have no grounds to carp should our choices freely made, lead us to folly.

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        There are flaws in the religion.

        And there are things in the relationship that we as spiritual children haven’t arrived at yet or are not yet ready for.

        And spoiled is the kid who pouts because they cannot have EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW. Relationship is a process.

        But as I’ve said too many times to count, if you wait for EVERYTHING to be resolved and know before entering into fellowship with someone . . . you will forever be lonely (or surrounded by pretenders who are just out to steal something of value away from you).

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz i wait for one thing only. And even though it’s unrealistic it’s what I decided, and won’t be swayed. So we’re at an impasse.

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        If life was just a debate (or a time-limited game?) where the stakes are just “winning” or “losing”, we might be at impasse here.

        But life is quite likely far, far more.

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz and if it’s not? If this is all it is, you gain being a nicer person… but are any big problems solved or at least drastically reduced by one’s faith? Let’s talk big, world reaching. Problems that have been around since the dawn of time. Is Christianity as a whole solving any problems, such as: World hunger – are you at the forefront of a technology that can make the crops not only bigger, but more nutritious. What about gangs? I know from firsthand experience that most of the churches in gang infested areas are simply covers for crime, and the pastors are on some sort of scam. What about housing the homeless- I’m not talking about giving shelter and food on a quasi daily basis, I’m talking about permanently housing them. What about racism? It’s gotten less over time and by and large seen as not a solution, but there are pockets of these ideas still out there. What about disease elimination- are any churches sponsoring labs to cure malaria, diabetes or cancer or AIDS? And what does the christian community do with all these problems? The only things they do is pray about the problems, keeping to their own lives, figuring it’s someone else’s job or give money but not get their hands dirty, or get their hands dirty… but only for a week or a month. Talk to me once these problems are no more.

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        Most (all?) religious exercises are about “my faith”. Let’s remember that the Bible clearly states that “faith is of God”. It is “the faith of God”. This is where the power and strength rests to solve-mitigate problems, and to help us avoid them in the first place. “Our faith” is a piddly little low-powered thing.

        Consider the very small example of people who truly had the faith OF God and are not just putting THEIR faith in God. Greed and hoarding would be mitigated; charitable acts would become more and more “affordable”; and we would not be so caught-up in limited and finite games of ego and power that we could better see the infinite “game” that is afoot where the goal is not to finish first within a limited time-frame on a limited field . . . but to include as many people as possible in the greater infinite game: one where neither time nor field is limited.

        What is it you are saying? Talk to you about resolving these issues . . . only once these issues are resolved??!!

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz The point of what I was saying if faith is so powerful some levels of problems simply wouldn’t exist anymore. Faith that can move mountains but can’t materialize food to end world hunger once and for all — actually it COULD when Jesus spoke, and that certainly would be a “greater thing!” And we have a lot more than 2 fish and 5 loaves to work with. We can only push off (in the case of antibiotics), mitigated (in the case of building up the immunity to by giving children shots), change SLIGHTLY for the better the world even if the entire human race were on the “same page.” There’s not a single problem that is capable of being solved completely and forever, it seems.

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        I also see the reality that “our faith” can accomplish a lot of things: things temporary; things with semblance of permanence; things both beneficial and detrimental to individual and the greater whole.

        So we have the reality that “faith is a powerful thing”. As an inquiring person, I like to ask if there is perhaps something beyond just “my faith” that is powerful beyond what I can imagine — but is also keyed to “Life and life more abundantly” (whatever that might mean that I currently cannot attach a handle to).

        What if perhaps the GREATEST problem facing us — physical mortality — WAS completely and forever solved? (Remembering that those who “don’t seek, won’t find”).
        But this involves a faith . . . that FAR exceeds us currently.

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz you say “what if” but the proof is in the pudding. How many dead people do you see walking around today? I mean people have near death experiences… but that is able to be duplicated by a drug and the person is nowhere near death!

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        The ultimate and complete Truth yes — something that is currently beyond our ability to fully understand or endure.

        One can fully enjoy each spoonful of the moment, before full satisfaction comes upon finishing it!

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz the root of the problem lies in the knowledge that if a pharmaceutical product can do the exact same thing as an actual near death experience. That means that those are likely false, brain chemical experiences due to lack of oxygen.

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        Even a snoot full of beer can have one feeling love for everyone around them!

        But the drug has produced a false feeling in the brain.

        So is the false calling the truth false, or is the truth calling the false the truth? Or is that false?

        (If you said “Huh?” . . . my response is “Exactly!!”)

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz and here i thought I was the master of doubletalk!

        I think at the core, the root of the problem is that if this reality is nothing more than a fabrication, a LIE (from the god of truth) smoke and mirrors, a prelude of sorts, a preliminary chapter to a spiritual existence yet to come totally without proof, without the ability to vet it (prove for yourself without being 1000% committed to the idea) — that is a HUGE problem – and it’s the one I can’t overlook.

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      • griz says:

        @jear77
        The fabrication is too often a function of our feelings. Which is why they don’t make a good Almighty.

        How often have you truly felt something is so, only to find out it is not? Our feelings often mislead.

        The “preliminary chapter” of what is to come . . . is NOT without proof! You just didn’t find proof in religious games.

        Every day I see more and more of the greater reality that is Life and Eternity, opening up before my eyes.

        And it is very much more . . . than just a freshly feeling or sensation.

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz if there were a spiritual reality we should see it in EVERYTHING You see there’s TONS of ways that could happen. Maybe have an angelic choir sing (that would be experienced by EVERYONE irrespective of faith) when a baby is born, someone makes the correct life choice, etc… yet no angelic choir would be physically present. Maybe when someone dies you would regularly have something like what happens on “Touched by an Angel” happens “I am an angel, sent by god!” etc. Maybe when someone was lost the whole world would shake with the announcement “TURN LEFT!” With events like these this spiritual happening all around us it would be an undeniable reality. As it is you have to put on rose tinted glasses to see this reality, ignoring, covering up, or making excuses for the atrocities of the bible done not only by the people of Israel and later the christian community, but of god himself.

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        One rarely finds what they don’t seek.

        Seeking rule books and religion were not the same is seeking God’s spirit in my life.

        And now having put these games of the flesh aside, I see abundant evidence of things spiritual. I can also see how my zeal to put God in a box of my subjective creation, actively blocked me from seeing what was all around me and plain to see.

        The person who never puts brush to canvas or pen to paper never need worry about becoming a renouned painter or famous author! But until they have their first small success, they are mainly guessing and shooting in the dark.
        And once they have, it’s like a light goes on.

        What were your first small spiritual successes?

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz i would wholeheartedly disagree. EVERYONE finds death, and the ones who serve life as you like to call it will often find it sooner.

        The Jews found death in the Holocaust when they sought to live in peace. Adopted children often find misery and heartache… and even death at the hands of the people who were given charge over them when many times the thing they’re searching for is a stable family environment.

        People get genetic diseases – even the healthiest among us who don’t look for it.

        So don’t say people often don’t find what they don’t seek. I call that idea out as false.

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      • griz says:

        @Jear77
        The person who hears about a possible bridge out ahead but keeps charging down the roadway, finds what they seek.
        Whether actively or passively, calamity was chosen: because they had every say in it not happening.

        So which genetic disease do you have? We’ve talked before about the folly of relying on a witness that is not yours; and of abusing someone in a more dire situation than ourselves, for our own gain.

        For all we know, the “poor wretch” who’s back we are climbing on to make our point may be at peace with Life and all that this entails.

        So who is the more wretched of the two?

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      • Jear77 says:

        @griz My mom has diabetes. I’m PROBABLY pre- diabetic. But I’m not in a situation where I can go to a doctor to get checked out.
        I have messed up eyes (but to some extent I did that to myself with all the computer use and reading I’ve done, and taking excessive vitamins)
        Multiple people I have known have had eyesight problems, genetically caused. One has glaucoma. Another has a rare eye disease that was supposed to have robbed him of his sight, yet he WILLS himself to see.

        And in terms of “passive” seeking, that’s not something I believe in. How can a child seek abuse or a rape victim their rapist? What about a murder victim their murderer? How can a victim of a robbery in broad daylight surrounded by people seek it? Can a person, through no fault of their own, be in a home where the electricity shorts out and the place catches on fire seek the fire? These are extreme circumstances, but they happen EVERY DAY. On occasion SOME of these things might be an unconscious / subconscious seeking… but most of the time, such events are the randomness of life.

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    • Jear77 says:

      @griz it’s “their” because she’s separate from them. A superhero(ine), not a mere mortal, trudging along this coil like the rest of us.

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      • Gina says:

        @Jear77 Thanks @jear77 and @yin for pointing out that this quote is from a superhero, who happens to be a goddess; not from this world.

        This movie is amazing, and I am not a fan of the superhero movies anymore…except the Iron Man series. But even that one, the action scenes go way to long. Wonder Woman had really great dialogue and a story, along with amazing action.

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  4. Yin says:

    I still need to see this movie. Will be getting the DVD when it comes out. Didn’t know what to expect out of her when it was announced that she was going to be playing Wonder Woman, but I loved what she like in Batman v Superman. She seemed to put more work into Doomsday than the other two and her name wasn’t even in the title of the movie, lol. Also looking forward to Justice League. Trailer looks dope. What I am highly curious about is what they do with her for The Flash movie, assuming they use her at all. I heard it may be based off of the Flashpoint story line and I’m just not sure they (the movie makers) want to risk Wonder Woman’s current popularity and influence for that. Ok. I’ll stop “nerding out” now, lol.

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    • Gina says:

      @yin We can nerd out all day about Wonder Woman! :) Run out and see it!!! It deserves the big screen, and a darkened theater.

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      • Yin says:

        @Gina I really was about to a few weekends ago but they stopped playing it here. They don’t leave movies in the theater for that long around here. Like, a month tops usually. I found out that around that time. Didn’t know it was a thing until I looked it up. Was bummed. Gonna have to jump at the chance when the second one comes out.

        When I nerd out about it, I will branch out to other DC stuff like I was getting into with The Flash. I do like how they gave her a sword and shield though. I mean, she had them before, but they weren’t as permanent as they seem to be now. They’re fitting for the character. With what I saw in the trailers, it seemed brighter (environment and tone) than other DC movies. I hope the popularity of this changes the tone of the others after Justice League. They need it in my opinion. Batman is the dark one. Makes sense for his movies. Not so much for the others.

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      • Gina says:

        @yin Yeah, I don’t nerd out that much over this stuff. :) Ezra Miller is the Flash in the movies. He will be great, such an amazing young actor.

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      • Yin says:

        @Gina I admit that I was upset that it wasn’t Grant Gustin from the TV show. The more I see Ezra Miller in the trailers though, the more I’m fine with the choice. Grant’s version is a bit more mopey and serious, though there are hilarious episodes here and there. Ezra’s seems goofy, which it how he actually should be and I love me some goofy characters (considering Psych was one of my all-time favorite shows.) Still bummed that the universes won’t be connected like the Marvel movies and shows kind of are, but I am fine with the different versions now.

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      • Gina says:

        @yin Yeah, I wonder why they didn’t pick Gustin. Did you see Beasts and Where to Find Them? Ezra Miller is amazing in that.

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      • Yin says:

        @Gina I have not. I actually haven’t even seen all of the Harry Potter movies. Like, I watched them up till about the Goblet of Fire, which we stopped somewhere in the middle of it. I also watched Half Blood Prince. My girlfriend at the time was the Harry Potter fan. It was an odd relationship though, so that is why I haven’t seem them all even though she loved the series. I was willing to, but she cut it short. We didn’t watch many movies together.

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