When you see someone on the news having said or done XYZ, how much do you attribute to “oh, that was a simple mistake” vs. “oh, this is a horrible person?” Why?
So what about sports stars acting the fool for the camera and something goes horribly wrong, or someone simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time and being swept up into something more, and that one event forever shapes their life from that moment forward?
…and then there is Ted Nugent who said this and gets an invite from the 45th to the white house:
‘We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their [the Obama administration’s] heads off in November,” Nugent said at the time.
He added, “If Barack Obama becomes the next president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”
The 45th who started the Birther movement. Don’t you think that hurt Obama’s children to hear the words from Trump that their daddy shouldn’t be president because he isn’t an American?
And should I post all the hideous pictures of a burned, hung, Obama that was posted on the internet by many people during the years?
Gina, my question wasn’t meant to be entirely political. I see people on social media and things get blown out of proportion. While there may be a grain of truth to what we see on the film, we need to know that there may be more than meets the eye in all of this. Who’s pulling the strings as it were? When we look at a story we see Sports figures. Comedians. Movie Stars. You and me. And yes, politicians end up there too. Because it’s so prevalent, maybe it should be seen as “cautionary”
> And should I post all the hideous pictures of a burned, hung, Obama that was posted on the internet by many people during the years?
You obviously don’t comprehend the vast difference between a C or D comedian/public figure creating a picture where they hold the head of a sitting president, and a bunch of keyboard warriors or unnamed racist fringe pieces of scum post XYZ.
@Weenis just as a FYI some of my best friends are people of different races, cultures, and creeds other than myself. With the diversity of the POV I have in my life, (including those I vehemently disagree with) makes me a more well-rounded person than let’s say someone who sticks to what they know and currently believe.
How many “simple mistakes” are tolerable in a self-styled nation-leader?
The “simple mistakes” of a comedian are really not in the same class as the “simple mistakes” of the POTUS. One also has to contrast one mistake in a low-power position (a comedian!) against an on-going string of them in the highest office in the land.
If one paints the former as “a horrible person” . . . what shade of paint is sufficient for the latter??
There’ s a very old and venerable saying: never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by ignorance.
Even if one is going to attribute something to “a simple mistake”, one has to look at how many of them are coming from the same source; and whether that person is in a position where an on-going level of ignorance is tolerable.
I like to analyze people. Maybe there truly are no horrible people. Maybe everyone is doing the best they can. However, there are people who need limits and boundaries because they haven’t earned their wisdom credits, like trump. When one sees his patterns, it is clear he is exisitng primarily in his child brain and in his ego consciousness. You don’t let a child run a nation.
Pretty easy to see Kathy griffins motivations. We don’t rele have to label it a mistake or a horrible person, moreover, we could call it, this person wants notoriety, but not the possible negative outcomes that come wit it.
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When it’s Trump talking about grabbing women by the pussy, it’s just a simple mistake.
When it’s Griffin holding the president’s severed head, this is a horrible person.
So what about sports stars acting the fool for the camera and something goes horribly wrong, or someone simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time and being swept up into something more, and that one event forever shapes their life from that moment forward?
…and then there is Ted Nugent who said this and gets an invite from the 45th to the white house:
‘We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their [the Obama administration’s] heads off in November,” Nugent said at the time.
He added, “If Barack Obama becomes the next president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”
The 45th who started the Birther movement. Don’t you think that hurt Obama’s children to hear the words from Trump that their daddy shouldn’t be president because he isn’t an American?
And should I post all the hideous pictures of a burned, hung, Obama that was posted on the internet by many people during the years?
Gina, my question wasn’t meant to be entirely political. I see people on social media and things get blown out of proportion. While there may be a grain of truth to what we see on the film, we need to know that there may be more than meets the eye in all of this. Who’s pulling the strings as it were? When we look at a story we see Sports figures. Comedians. Movie Stars. You and me. And yes, politicians end up there too. Because it’s so prevalent, maybe it should be seen as “cautionary”
Sorry Jear77, I wasn’t responding to your post; but to weenis.
> And should I post all the hideous pictures of a burned, hung, Obama that was posted on the internet by many people during the years?
You obviously don’t comprehend the vast difference between a C or D comedian/public figure creating a picture where they hold the head of a sitting president, and a bunch of keyboard warriors or unnamed racist fringe pieces of scum post XYZ.
I think what Kathy did was over the line, but she had every right to do it; and the gov had every right to visit her and have a little chat.
The comedian’s only error was not to include a bit of shoulder on Trump; then it would have simply been a stylized bust of a leader!
@Weenis just as a FYI some of my best friends are people of different races, cultures, and creeds other than myself. With the diversity of the POV I have in my life, (including those I vehemently disagree with) makes me a more well-rounded person than let’s say someone who sticks to what they know and currently believe.
How many “simple mistakes” are tolerable in a self-styled nation-leader?
The “simple mistakes” of a comedian are really not in the same class as the “simple mistakes” of the POTUS. One also has to contrast one mistake in a low-power position (a comedian!) against an on-going string of them in the highest office in the land.
If one paints the former as “a horrible person” . . . what shade of paint is sufficient for the latter??
There’ s a very old and venerable saying: never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by ignorance.
Even if one is going to attribute something to “a simple mistake”, one has to look at how many of them are coming from the same source; and whether that person is in a position where an on-going level of ignorance is tolerable.
I like to analyze people. Maybe there truly are no horrible people. Maybe everyone is doing the best they can. However, there are people who need limits and boundaries because they haven’t earned their wisdom credits, like trump. When one sees his patterns, it is clear he is exisitng primarily in his child brain and in his ego consciousness. You don’t let a child run a nation.
Pretty easy to see Kathy griffins motivations. We don’t rele have to label it a mistake or a horrible person, moreover, we could call it, this person wants notoriety, but not the possible negative outcomes that come wit it.