If the primary argument for any legislation is supported with the anonymous and unverifiable deaths of countless people, why shouldn’t we do things like life in prison for any crime, or 4mph speed limits, etc?
Some things it would be impossible to tell until after a particular law/ sequence of laws had passed. If the number of deaths was egregious would there by any way to stop them from happening while the studies on the effect of said laws. The fact that they don’t use any existing studies to extrapolate how many MORE deaths might occur is somewhat problematic, however.
That’s not a very scientific approach. Science says we observe, measure the differences, reproduce, and then put in our change.
Are you saying we should deviate from that?
Also, I would say it’s quite overwhelming in support that if we all drove at 4mph there would be less deaths, do you disagree with this? Same goes with putting into effect a life in prison law for anyone breaking the law(given the amount of murders from repeat offenders…).
When we’re dealing with people’s lives, we have to be careful, even at times if we have to put the cart before the horse.
I have found out through personal experience is the reason why recidivism is such a problem is because people lack opportunities to turn their lives around. I worked i a program where we gave returning citizens an opportunity to do just that in a controlled environment. You take someone out of society, but don’t give them the skills to return to society and be successful, and give them a black mark against them when it comes to employers, is it no small reason why people are repeat offenders. On some offenses, while it still should be a crime, it should not be a jail-able offense.
Laws are only one example.
Medicine is another. The FDA is another organization that gets it backwards. Companies that sell vitamins also have to follow laws, yet there are many medicines that have “black box” warnings on them. Doctors need to be careful not to prescribe deadly medications without cause to their patients. Yet some of these medications might not be needed if you need have proper nutrition through diet and pills, fitness activities, and stress reduction actions,
Intelligent discourse is only a partial solution: because we as a species are very partial in our intelligence — exercising it as much (or more) for emotional gain as for actual intellectual gain.
Isn’t this just a slippery slope argument? Sure we could impose inconvenient laws to ensure that everyone is encased within a safety bubble, but I don’t believe that we have the resources or the means to enforce such regulations. Furthermore, I don’t know that the primary argument for legislation is necessarily geared towards the purpose of saving lives, but more so to improve them.
7 responses to “PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!”
Some things it would be impossible to tell until after a particular law/ sequence of laws had passed. If the number of deaths was egregious would there by any way to stop them from happening while the studies on the effect of said laws. The fact that they don’t use any existing studies to extrapolate how many MORE deaths might occur is somewhat problematic, however.
That’s not a very scientific approach. Science says we observe, measure the differences, reproduce, and then put in our change.
Are you saying we should deviate from that?
Also, I would say it’s quite overwhelming in support that if we all drove at 4mph there would be less deaths, do you disagree with this? Same goes with putting into effect a life in prison law for anyone breaking the law(given the amount of murders from repeat offenders…).
When we’re dealing with people’s lives, we have to be careful, even at times if we have to put the cart before the horse.
I have found out through personal experience is the reason why recidivism is such a problem is because people lack opportunities to turn their lives around. I worked i a program where we gave returning citizens an opportunity to do just that in a controlled environment. You take someone out of society, but don’t give them the skills to return to society and be successful, and give them a black mark against them when it comes to employers, is it no small reason why people are repeat offenders. On some offenses, while it still should be a crime, it should not be a jail-able offense.
Laws are only one example.
Medicine is another. The FDA is another organization that gets it backwards. Companies that sell vitamins also have to follow laws, yet there are many medicines that have “black box” warnings on them. Doctors need to be careful not to prescribe deadly medications without cause to their patients. Yet some of these medications might not be needed if you need have proper nutrition through diet and pills, fitness activities, and stress reduction actions,
Battles of histrionics rarely have good traction.
Both sides just end up spinning their wheels.
Intelligent discourse is only a partial solution: because we as a species are very partial in our intelligence — exercising it as much (or more) for emotional gain as for actual intellectual gain.
So we shouldn’t try to gauge the repercussions? I think that’s how we got this far into too-big-to-fail “health”care. OBAMAHHHHH!
A good piece of rope can solve a lot of problems…
Isn’t this just a slippery slope argument? Sure we could impose inconvenient laws to ensure that everyone is encased within a safety bubble, but I don’t believe that we have the resources or the means to enforce such regulations. Furthermore, I don’t know that the primary argument for legislation is necessarily geared towards the purpose of saving lives, but more so to improve them.