have you ever interacted with the police?
what was your experience like?
what is your opinion of the police?
what do you do/feel when you are out and you see a police officer?
Often in my line of work. It follows all the rules of an authority interaction, and their having a job to do. What that means is that they get to call the shots not you — unless you have legal expertise and they are clearly in violation.
But even then it’s leveraged in their favor, so trying to argue a legal point with them on the spot is a high risk strategy.
Respect the officer. Or if you cannot do that at least respect the uniform and the office they hold.
They pick up on this very early in the interaction. And if they are inclined to let somebody off with a warning or a lesser violation there is no better way to assist this happening.
@Scarlett
Statistically there appears to be no such thing.
The disproportionate stats that the victimhood groups like to use in support of this construct are a multi-varied equation they are trying to apply a very simplistic uni-varied analysis to.
The stats are found to support the pre-existing construct; rather than letting the stats reveal the complex construct of actual reality.
Having worked in law enforcement, all I will say is that I have the upmost respect for police officers, the job they must do, and the hazards they face on a daily basis. My inter-actions have been varied, some good and some bad…and in no way lowers my opinion of the police.
@immortal_pirate don’t you think there are good and bad though, just like in every other walk of life? were you aware of implicit bias during your time on the job?
Currently, my opinion of them isn’t very high. The idea behind it, I totally respect and admire. It just doesn’t seem they are living up to that.
I have a cousin who is into drugs and whatnot. He was on parole or something at the time. He came to my house to pay me back some money he owed me since he just got paid from his job. Cops knock on my door. They came in. They searched us. Then left out of the door. I look over and saw some trash (cardboard with numbers on them) on the couch. Told my cousin. He got this very concerned look on his face, said “No, they fucking didn’t,” and then looked in his wallet. Sure enough, all of his money was gone.
That was the angriest I have ever seen him. Muscles flexed, skin red, tears out of his eyes. He swung open the door, but then his mood changed. He calmly walked down the stairs to the cops starting to pull away in their vehicles and asked why they stole his money from him. They said they didn’t. The cop said he never even looked in that pocket and only found the pocket knife on him. This, of course, was most likely a lie. Either he lied or he sucked at being a police officer. I’m going with lie since my cousin did have the money since he did pay me and I saw with my own eyes him still having money left over in his wallet. We just went back inside once I also started accusing the cop of theft and my cousin just telling me that we need to just go back inside.
Short cop looking like a grey haired Yosemite Sam comes up in my door and starts yelling about stuff. My dog I had at the time was terrified of strangers. She pooped on the floor because they were in the house. Dude was yelling about how the house was dirty and he could have this house shut down because there is dog shit everywhere. I was getting mad then and raising my voice, explaining that she was doing that because they were in the house. My cousin had to calm me down. My cousin just apologized and they left. My cousin knew that since he was on parole, they could make his life hell if he tried to tell anybody about it. He just had to take it.
I never really felt comfortable around police, even before that incident. They have the power to destroy your life for whatever reason they want. While I didn’t know how dirty a lot of them were, it was just the fact that they could be terrible without any consequences. That and the fact that they wear a gun on them at all times. I just get a bit paranoid when I see someone having a gun on them like that. It’s just that it can all kick off at any point. I shot guns and stuff, but it is just odd when they are just out in everyday public, even if on cops. It is a lot of power on one person’s body. You just have to hope they aren’t having a bad day.
Overall, respect the idea, but the execution of that idea is way off.
@Scarlett Yes, but that isn’t enough. I mean, it is usually the police or those very close to them that review the footage. Not much will happen when the people who have power have control of the power the citizens put in place. They may throw some of the worst under the bus from time to time to make it look like it is working, but it won’t work as well as we wish. Even when cops are caught, they get suspended and put back on duty or just let go so they can go be a cop somewhere else. The system we have currently is needs changing, bad. They shouldn’t be allowed to do what they do to get around justice. Theft, planting evidence, assault, murder, but they usually get to keep being police. It’s gross. Chicago had black sites where they would arrest people and take them there without booking them so they could “interrogate” them for hours. I mean…
Not sure if you have seen this video. Recently in a Toronto a nutbar climbed a sidewalk in a rented van and killed 11 people. He was arrested with no shots being fired. Watch the video and consider the interaction and how no shots were being fired. Note, the perpetrator was telling the officer he had a gun and was demanding that he be shot in the head.
@spitfire3dc hadn’t seen that. I think there are good cops and bad cops just like there are good and bad everything. My own interactions with them have all been positive. I have had to interact with them quite a bit as a social worker. However, I also consider my privilege. I do not have to have the same conversation with my son that black mothers have to have with their sons about the cops, and that is scary.
Dealt with two cops recently. I think In left them disturbed — caught one surveilling me in a dollar store. Probable he quickly realized was my daughter was wearing a cover recording device that appears as a set if real glasses.
I played deadpool really good at this, so it was an odd thing.
They were fine, but I wish one joke, he may have believed me.
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Often in my line of work. It follows all the rules of an authority interaction, and their having a job to do. What that means is that they get to call the shots not you — unless you have legal expertise and they are clearly in violation.
But even then it’s leveraged in their favor, so trying to argue a legal point with them on the spot is a high risk strategy.
Respect the officer. Or if you cannot do that at least respect the uniform and the office they hold.
They pick up on this very early in the interaction. And if they are inclined to let somebody off with a warning or a lesser violation there is no better way to assist this happening.
Oh, and a clear conscience helps as well!
@griz do you think white male privilege assists you in your interactions with police?
@Scarlett
Statistically there appears to be no such thing.
The disproportionate stats that the victimhood groups like to use in support of this construct are a multi-varied equation they are trying to apply a very simplistic uni-varied analysis to.
The stats are found to support the pre-existing construct; rather than letting the stats reveal the complex construct of actual reality.
On several occasions.
Each one is different. Sometimes they’re helpful, sometimes not so much.
Depending on the officer
Oh, there’s an officer.
Having worked in law enforcement, all I will say is that I have the upmost respect for police officers, the job they must do, and the hazards they face on a daily basis. My inter-actions have been varied, some good and some bad…and in no way lowers my opinion of the police.
@immortal_pirate don’t you think there are good and bad though, just like in every other walk of life? were you aware of implicit bias during your time on the job?
Currently, my opinion of them isn’t very high. The idea behind it, I totally respect and admire. It just doesn’t seem they are living up to that.
I have a cousin who is into drugs and whatnot. He was on parole or something at the time. He came to my house to pay me back some money he owed me since he just got paid from his job. Cops knock on my door. They came in. They searched us. Then left out of the door. I look over and saw some trash (cardboard with numbers on them) on the couch. Told my cousin. He got this very concerned look on his face, said “No, they fucking didn’t,” and then looked in his wallet. Sure enough, all of his money was gone.
That was the angriest I have ever seen him. Muscles flexed, skin red, tears out of his eyes. He swung open the door, but then his mood changed. He calmly walked down the stairs to the cops starting to pull away in their vehicles and asked why they stole his money from him. They said they didn’t. The cop said he never even looked in that pocket and only found the pocket knife on him. This, of course, was most likely a lie. Either he lied or he sucked at being a police officer. I’m going with lie since my cousin did have the money since he did pay me and I saw with my own eyes him still having money left over in his wallet. We just went back inside once I also started accusing the cop of theft and my cousin just telling me that we need to just go back inside.
Short cop looking like a grey haired Yosemite Sam comes up in my door and starts yelling about stuff. My dog I had at the time was terrified of strangers. She pooped on the floor because they were in the house. Dude was yelling about how the house was dirty and he could have this house shut down because there is dog shit everywhere. I was getting mad then and raising my voice, explaining that she was doing that because they were in the house. My cousin had to calm me down. My cousin just apologized and they left. My cousin knew that since he was on parole, they could make his life hell if he tried to tell anybody about it. He just had to take it.
I never really felt comfortable around police, even before that incident. They have the power to destroy your life for whatever reason they want. While I didn’t know how dirty a lot of them were, it was just the fact that they could be terrible without any consequences. That and the fact that they wear a gun on them at all times. I just get a bit paranoid when I see someone having a gun on them like that. It’s just that it can all kick off at any point. I shot guns and stuff, but it is just odd when they are just out in everyday public, even if on cops. It is a lot of power on one person’s body. You just have to hope they aren’t having a bad day.
Overall, respect the idea, but the execution of that idea is way off.
@yin Should al of them be required to wear body cameras?
@Scarlett Yes, but that isn’t enough. I mean, it is usually the police or those very close to them that review the footage. Not much will happen when the people who have power have control of the power the citizens put in place. They may throw some of the worst under the bus from time to time to make it look like it is working, but it won’t work as well as we wish. Even when cops are caught, they get suspended and put back on duty or just let go so they can go be a cop somewhere else. The system we have currently is needs changing, bad. They shouldn’t be allowed to do what they do to get around justice. Theft, planting evidence, assault, murder, but they usually get to keep being police. It’s gross. Chicago had black sites where they would arrest people and take them there without booking them so they could “interrogate” them for hours. I mean…
Not sure if you have seen this video. Recently in a Toronto a nutbar climbed a sidewalk in a rented van and killed 11 people. He was arrested with no shots being fired. Watch the video and consider the interaction and how no shots were being fired. Note, the perpetrator was telling the officer he had a gun and was demanding that he be shot in the head.
@spitfire3dc hadn’t seen that. I think there are good cops and bad cops just like there are good and bad everything. My own interactions with them have all been positive. I have had to interact with them quite a bit as a social worker. However, I also consider my privilege. I do not have to have the same conversation with my son that black mothers have to have with their sons about the cops, and that is scary.
They haven’t shot me yet.
@luftballooneyegouge I know people who literally start shaking when they get pulled over for a traffic violation. There is a true fear there
@Scarlett
Showing fear to a predator is an invitation.
Dealt with two cops recently. I think In left them disturbed — caught one surveilling me in a dollar store. Probable he quickly realized was my daughter was wearing a cover recording device that appears as a set if real glasses.
I played deadpool really good at this, so it was an odd thing.
They were fine, but I wish one joke, he may have believed me.
Neither of them see to sense how calm I was.