Trying to silence the hateful morons is the worst mistake of the politically correct

Because it disables the self-correction mechanism that keeps any society from becoming pathological.

Refusing to let them speak means society loses track of where they are what the issues are and just how pathological they are growing in P.C. exile.

Neither ignoring nor vilifying them makes the issue go away. Just the opposite! Denied the public attention of freedom of speech they retreat into hidden enclaves and echo chambers where they fester in abscess. Not making small corrections to the society on-the-fly enables them to grow into large issues that then threatened the society. They come out raging as the righteous oppressed. (This links to things like the removal of Confederate flags and statues)

And our reasons for marginalizing them remain no more noble than protecting things like personal ease, happiness, bliss, and not having to deal with things that make our tissue-paper skin and feinting-couch emotions feel icky.

Freedom of speech is foundational for our society. I cannot think of a single tyranny throughout Human history that didn’t begin with limiting what people were allowed to say.

6 responses to “Trying to silence the hateful morons is the worst mistake of the politically correct”

  1. Gina says:

    I do not think that the removal of confederate monument equates to free speech. Statues cannot speak. Robert E Lee himself was against them. In his writings, Lee cited multiple reasons for opposing such monuments, questioning the cost of a potential Stonewall Jackson monument, for example. But underlying it all was one rationale: That the war had ended, and the South needed to move on and avoid more upheaval.

    How do you think you would feel if you were black and you had to walk by one of these statues every day to work of school? The men who fought to keep your ancestors enslaved were being held in high esteem like some god damned hero?

    Would you want to walk by a statue of a person who assaulted you, raped your grandmother or killed your grandfather?

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    • griz says:

      @Gina
      The feelings of the individual are not unimportant.

      But altering the reality of what was just to cater to them, is a horrendous mistake. It gouges out the eyes and defeats the society’s self-correction mechanism.
      Ignoring a wound leads to abscess.

      To enable a slave mindset in someone so profound that an inanimate object representing a reality hijacks their psyche and psychologically un-does them . . . is one of the cruelest acts one human can support happening to another.

      And to do it out of some mistaken farce that one is doing them some kindness, some love, some compassion, is the heart of the devouring mother.

      This seed has become deep-rooted in our society. It is going to be understandably painful to remove it. Many have harvested a lot of virtue-signalling energy off it.

      But endorsing/enabling a slave or victimhood mindset in another, is vile evil.

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      • @griz
        How much of your money do you shovel into Jordan Peterson’s wallet?

        Right now Jordan Peterson is using legal maneuvers to silence his critics with a $1.5 million dollar lawsuit.

        ““So I think this is a warning, let’s say, to other careless administrators and professors who allow their ideological presuppositions to get the best of them to be a bit more careful with what they say and do,”-Jordan Peterson

        ….BUT that’s NOT an attack on free speech?!?!?!?,…. like , holy shit, taking down a flag from a state building is?!?!?!?

        Why should those poor statues & flags suffer just because of the actual suffering of people?

        Gosh golly @gina4peas, do you really want the P.C. Police to go around putting out people’s eyes?!?!?!?!?

        (…more griztian alarmist hyperbole that keeps regurgitating repetitively to reinforce mental programming & justify/rationalize (past) abuse as the (only) catalyst for growth)

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      • griz says:

        @luftballooneyegouge
        What do you think the inevitable outcome is of someone who can only learn from a perfect person?

        Such a man would ultimately find the only ones worthy to teach them are God himself; or himself as God.

        There’s value in being able to learn from someone who is not yet perfect: and also and not considering oneself so perfect that none can be their teacher.

        That you have a problem with a particular man only proves that you have a problem with a particular man!

        The people in those Confederate imagery cases are likely suffering. A damaged psyche manifests damage throughout the entire organism.
        But classic and time-proven therapy doesn’t involve shielding them from the triggering phenomenon. Just the opposite. Increasingly exposing them to the debilitating trigger in reality works to desensitize them to it.

        Because really all they are suffering is an over sensitivity to a particular trigger. Enabling someone to remain in such a state is far more hateful than helpful.

        Only a fool could deny that stressors are a major factor in growth. The evidence is overwhelming.

        So would you classify it as a helpful process or a hateful process to “”protect”” people from the very things that will help them grow strong?

        There’s an awful lot of “toxic mother” in that protectionist proposition.

        (I would also highly recommend reading Alexandr Sotlzhenitsyn’s book The Gulag Archipelago. That society’s downward spiral began with the early leaders of the movement calling any contrary thought “alarmist”)

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      • @griz
        I don’t come anywhere near to be calling for a perfect role-model so quit making up arguments I’m not making.

        The important thing is thee ‘WHY’ that I have a problem with a certain person. I didn’t just draw the name out of a hat.

        The main reason we have statues is for the morale of society. It’s called “placing things on pedestals” for a reason. If these things are no longer good for the morale of society they’re removed. It’s not that big of a deal.

        People suffering from racism have plenty reminders that they don’t need to depend on statues and an old flag for your desensitization ploy.

        Only a dipshit fuckin’ fool could deny that NOURISHMENT IS THEEE major factor in growth. The evidence is overwhelming.

        Why do we have to go over the same shit over & over & over & over…

        You make a post like this about every other month.

        If anyone is in a slave mindset it’s you, as you are repetitively captive to this topic.

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      • griz says:

        @luftballooneyegouge
        There seems to be some vendetta against a man you’ve likely not met, for a lawsuit you may not have a good understanding of. You seem to want to dismiss people you’ve likely not met, for not measuring up to some standard of expectation (perfection?)

        I was just as curious as you! If I tell you my age, will you tell me about the apparent vendetta you have against. Dr. Peterson?

        I believe there is a difference between commemorating someone, and worshiping them. One has to do with honoring History, remaining mindful of both the good and the bad that brought us to this place. Moves to erase this put us in the same category as Mao.

        So remind me again of just what racism they suffer? Do they not have equal rights and possibilities to the rest of us? And likely social and financial assistance we don’t qualify for because of our race?
        (Isn’t that a good working definition of racism?)

        A baby that receives just the creature necessities (including nourishment) languishes and dies. They need other things, like interaction and challenge to not just survive, but flourish.

        We go over the same stuff because the information underpinning the beliefs you propose is not accurate. Are we seeking Truth; or just a convenience we can languish in?

        The only thing I might be captive to is the quest for Truth.
        And several sources assert that Truth is what sets one free.
        (Likely from ideological possession)

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