Weinstein and trump

both sides are calling each other out for their treatment of women, but the fact remains that there are humans on the planet that do unhealthy things, no matter what their politics or religion are. Looking at the degree of unhealthy is important, and the extent to which the unhealth affects other people. It seems that we live in a culture where it has long been held that it is okay to violate women in particular in a sexual way and/or to objectify women. I read something this morning on a woman who couldn’t name another woman who had not been sexually harassed or assaulted in some way in their lifetime. Personally, I cannot say I haven’t been sexually assaulted.
What makes this so commonplace? Will everyone talking about it decrease the incidence of it happening?

10 responses to “Weinstein and trump”

  1. Yin says:

    I don’t like how somehow political sides matter in this. Both are disgusting. Like, Fox News was been going after Weinsten, rightfully so, but they say seem to ignore Trump, Roger Ailes, and Bill O’Reilly. All gross. I can’t help but feel that maybe there will be an initial increase of these incidents if people talk about them since there is always a push back of culture changes, but it 100% needs to be talked about and changed. This stuff even happened to Terry Crews. Not that he is more important than others, but that man is huge. If he was scared to say anything and come out about it, it is easy to see how other people have fears about making their story known. It isn’t as simple as people coming forward. People aren’t believed, or are scolded for not coming out sooner, or scolded for not naming names.

    This is a power game. They do what they do because they can and they feel they can get away with it. Even when called out, they could still get away with it, unfortunately. I do find some comfort that our culture is changing enough to where there are some consequences to sexual harassers/assailants, but we still have work to do to actually prevent it.

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  2. Spitfire3dC says:

    I am shocked that people are shocked about the Weinstein issue. My God, are people so stupid that they figure that ignoring it is enough to make it not real?

    So let me get this straight, a woman wants fame as a person acting as a sex object, but wants to be respected for her talent to do so. Part of the job in entertainment is to attract viewers into the simplest form of desire; sexuality. Somehow, the pug dog factor can apply with men (think Mick Jagger) but bottom line is sexuality…where sometimes possession of power is an aphrodisiac to some less sophisticated participants.

    Sex has been used and is used as a bargaining chip first and foremost forever. Blow jobs are currency at ridiculous degrees of youth where the behaviour is established and somehow there is this consideration where willingness to degrade is a form of earning respect??

    Trump was being a narcissist that has a mixed up idea about respect, but the fact is, he probably did encounter many women that would allow his predatory ways, but most isn’t all.

    Is it possible that any aspiring actor, male or female, had no idea that a casting couch existed as a power “perk”. Power, will ALWAYS corrupt. It is the nature of the beast and like heroin will require ever more dramatic fixes. When society suggests that morality is X, then power will deliver the corresponding Y.

    Weinstein’s power had to be satiated by the ultimate humiliation of others when you run out of material things to buy. Consumption and compilation of excess is a way some people need to feel that others are envious of their troves and arm candy is just another thing to illustrate why others have to be jealous of their trophies. Some of those trophies feel good about themselves as being trophies too. It can go both ways.

    All the words are a part of our lexicon, candy, trophy, boy toy…Women in the same positions of power aren’t immune to the sickness.

    It won’t go away as long as power is a desired destination. If we were to encourage other things as desirable destinations, especially geared towards contentment, versus images that inaccurately represent happiness, we might have a shot at getting past this ridiculous behaviour, but getting everyone on the same page…impossible.

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  3. ladybarbara says:

    I remember a film I saw of Shirley Temple Black telling of her first casting couch experience. Her mother had put make-up on the baby’s face and sent her into the next room with a casting director. Shirley Temple described a nightmare situation that had left her crying, her body sore, her make-up smeared, eye make-up running down her face from tears, and the man’s jizz on her face. When she returned to her mother, the most shocking thing of all happened. Her mother spit on a handkerchief and wiped the baby’s face —- as if it was an expected nightmare and now it was over and Mommy will just clean that up with a hanky. It was a matter-of-fact that this was going to happen with every movie she was cast in. That is why, after the age of 20, or so, she quit making movies. The interview she gave was to point out that the “casting couch” was common place and needs to stop —- especially when it is a small child being casted.

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  4. Gina says:

    I have been sexually assaulted.

    Sexual Assault is not a partisan issue.

    Let me let Oscar and Emmy winner Viola Davis give the response:

    “The predator wants your silence. It feeds their power, entitlement AND they want it to feed your shame,” Davis wrote to the industry publication Wednesday.

    Our bodies are not the ‘spoils of war’… a trophy to be collected to fuel your ego. It’s OURS!!! It doesn’t belong to you!! And when you take it without permission, it DESTROYS…… like a virus!!!”

    To the predators.. Weinstein, the stranger, the relative, the boyfriend…. I say to you, ‘You can choose your sin but you don’t get to choose the consequences.’ To the victims…. I see you. I believe you… and I’m listening.

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  5. Gina says:

    I have been sexually assaulted.

    Sexual assault isn’t a partisan issue.

    Let me let Samantha Bee explain to the harassers what the deal is.

    Listen up creeps!

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  6. Gina says:

    A Penis Public Service announcement from the Great Samantha Bee.

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  7. Gina says:

    Check out #metoo on twitter.

    #MeToo quickly became the top trending hashtag on Twitter Sunday night as women (and MEN) spoke up to show the world just how common sexual harassment and sexual assault is. You can watch the number of responses grow by the minute.

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/metoo?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Ehashtag

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  8. griz says:

    The problem is that the bar on what qualifies as “sexual assault” has steadily been lowering and now exists in a hole several metres deep. We are to the point where a woman is “assaulted” by someone whistling at her.
    Yea, it’s neanderthal . . . but “assaulted”??
    We are soon getting to the point where if a woman intentionally dresses herself up provocatively or gets her hair done and nobody notices . . . this will be “sexual assault”!

    Yes, it happens. Men’s M.O. tends towards physically, actively seeking control over others. Women’s M.O. tends to be to strike out at and assault others psychologically, passively seeking control. The notion that women “enjoy something special” when it comes to “victimhood” is greatly confabulated.

    But this does fall very uncomfortably with the exact same trend Trump and Weinstein champion: that of pointing out something one thinks “the other” is “worse” at . . . while totally neglecting that they can and often are guilty of the same.

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  9. BelleMadre says:

    while back i was having a conversation with a friend about how we have never met a woman who wasnt sexually harassed or worse at some point in her life.
    this was not implying that men havent been hurt or assaulted, just that not a single woman i know has gone without that violation at some point in her life.
    that there is beyond sad. That is what triggers me. that.

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  10. Gina says:

    Carrie Fisher was the best friend a girl could have. I just read this story how she handled a sexual predator.

    There was no greater ally than the late, great Carrie Fisher.

    Fisher’s friend Heather Ross is among the many women who are coming forward with their stories of sexual harassment and assault amid the accusations against producer Harvey Weinstein. Ross told Tucson radio station 94.9 on Monday about how Fisher stood up to a producer after Ross disclosed to her that she’d been assaulted by “an Oscar-winning producer.”

    Fisher hand-delivered a package to the hotshot at Sony.

    “It was a cow tongue from Jerry’s Famous Deli with a note that said, ‘If you ever touch my darling Heather or any other woman again, the next delivery will be something of yours in a much smaller box,’”.

    RIP Carrie, we need more allies like you.

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