OMG! It wasn’t my turn to watch him. Now I am worried. For my part of the search, I will search through my house and yards. I will report back if I find him.
He’s around. There was a bug in the blocking feature, I’ve reset it and ALL blocks have been removed. So note to everyone….if you blocked someone on accident or with intent, you’ll have to redo your blocks – or don’t.
Bluntly, as you are continuing to troll me with your crazy false accusations and remain unwilling to even give me a word of explanation or defense in edge wise, I blocked you.
Like I said elsewhere, it took about six months of your accusations for me to finally do this.
Does this mean “woe is me” because I have “preconceived notions” of when a person is unable to be reached? I do not think so, that is absolutely absurd.
The very concept is patently absurd as you created that statement after I had quoted multiple case examples from Scripture. Common sense, however, also is clear here.
None of this means I blame you. It is my fault. Of course you can not accept these extremely far fetched claims I was making. I should have caught that much earlier and stopped talking about these things when it became clear you would never be able to comprehend them.
For some reason, I suppose because I find the idea of you being a human not plausible, I kept telling you. And you kept inserting these snide, sideways remarks directed at me, personally. You never addressed the actual issues. But, all of this is normal behavior. The reason I normally tell no one these things is because no one can comprehend them, so of course, they can not believe them.
Even I did not believe these things without decades of extensive evidence.
Why did I keep talking? Curiosity, mainly. I thought maybe you would eventually have some kind of answers.
Why did I finally break with this?
A dream from God.
To be quick: basically, I had a bunch of people that were hanging around me because they were hired to do so. Why? Because I was filthy rich and specifically had some kind of extremely powerful and potentially world ending treasure, which I kept with me, and hidden, all the time.
I felt they wanted it, but, I guess, in retrospect, they were just there to protect it. Perhaps. Whatever the case I kept it close to me, and did not trust to give it to them. I was concerned they might try and steal it all the while.
I was the driver and it was my car. They followed me around as passengers.
At one point, one of them betrayed me, betrayed us all, and stole the car. A friend who came with me in all of this and was not one of them hijacked a truck and I went with him. I got on the roof while he drove across lanes to chase the guy down. Then, we got the car back, suffice it to say.
Point being, it is absurd for me to think you or anyone else would have anything to tell me. Only reason you are talking to me is because of the information I have, which you want.
So, why should I continue conversing or taking all the insults?
Am I bad for stopping trying to reach you, to save you? You are not a real person, that is absurd! None of these things you do are real.
You are exactly one, what I have been calling, “angel”.
So absurd is it you keep insisting I worship angels or try and get others to, and other such nonsense.
Your accusations against me are childish and absurd, but I have ignored them for all these months. Feelings wise. I patiently, again and again, tried to reason with you to listen to my explanations and allow me a personal defense, but you are entirely deaf. It is useless talking to you.
Why continue to do so now? Can I save you now and chalk up a mark on my airplane? I do not look at salvation as you do. I see salvation as from God, not man.
I can’t cure you of your deafness, because you have no faith. You have no faith because you are unable to say “I do not know”. You think you know many things which you really do not.
You think you can hear. I can’t make you realize you are deaf and can not hear. If I could, then, maybe your heart of stone would become a real, living heart, and you would turn to God and be healed of your severe spiritual affliction.
But if God does not want you to be healed, what can I do?
Talk to the deaf, dance for the blind?
How is that not a complete absurdity?
Further, ‘if you can’t say anything nice, do not say anything at all’. Distinctly, not a scripture quote.
But, in general, I don’t want to judge people, and I don’t want to tell them how bad their condition really is.
Still, at the very same time, all of this is patently absurd, as you are not even a real person. Back there, somewhere, is a real (non-human) person. Maybe you really believe your background memories are real, if you really have them. Maybe you really believe you are a truck driver. Maybe you have no idea what you are, really. A construct, a vehicle for communication to me, for messaging purposes.
Maybe I should have been upfront about that from the beginning, as I believe you should be more upfront about your beliefs. But, I know you already know these things, and always have.
As for your negative behaviors and words, do they actually happen as some kind of teaching message to me, as a message that is useful? Yes, actually, and I know what they are, though not yet entirely.
A human being would not be that way, but you are not a human being. You are consciously very aware of this facade of accusations you throw at me. You agree with my condemnations of them, because you know I am telling the truth — as you are part of the truth!
But, it does seem that merely talking to you, regardless and continuing to, is part of that message. It does seem that this behavior of yours does tell me I should block you and cease all communications.
I plan to, but I will give this testimony, first, before I do, and maybe other.
A caution is just a caution. Your message seems predominantly about angels, and about you. If God or the spirit of life is what you worship, let your witness be there.
I put effort into these responses and into reading what you have written. There are still several lengthy messages pending. If my responses are just going to bounce off a block Please let me know.
But a final caution: people not affirming or massaging us, is not an attack an accusation or a judgement.
The Truth is what needs to be “right”: not us.
If you are not in this caution Zone then no offense or consternation need be registered.
“A caution is just a caution. Your message seems predominantly about angels, and about you. If God or the spirit of life is what you worship, let your witness be there.
I put effort into these responses and into reading what you have written. There are still several lengthy messages pending. If my responses are just going to bounce off a block Please let me know.”
Yeah, your response seem to be: I do not believe the core of what you are saying about your fantastic claims.
I do not know what you are telling your self there, but nothing you are going to say is going to magically make things which happened to me disappear. You are not going to make people I know disappear.
You attack me, then I defend myself. You attack the details of my circumstances, which has a lot to do about angels, so then I have to talk about angels. It is catch-22. I end up talking more about myself and angels, and you become further convinced I am just making everything up.
You would, of course, balk that I say “you attack me”, as you are very indirect in your accusations. But, this is normal for people to do, who typically communicate indirectly. I strongly doubt your inner thoughts are so indirect.
It is easy to dismiss whole messages outright, by singular observations about the source.
Oh, he said he drinks beer sometimes, and my church believes that no one should ever drink beer, so only the unsaved drink beer. Therefore, everything he says is wrong and not of the church and not of Christ.
Sometimes you can certainly have legitimate ammo. I think me going “fuck you” about accusing people who use undercover names, legends, cover stories and the like you could cite to your self with confidence that this proves I am immoral and certainly then incapable of handling greater matters then you have even ever heard of.
I often boil things down to equivalents. It can help. I try and find the way to untie that gordion knot. Alexander was right, just cut it in half. Others might see his action as showing proof of someone who is lawless.
Boiling this down, I have this claim, an extraordinary claim, and you do not believe it.
I know you do not believe it.
But, do you tell yourself this? Do you boil it down yourself and go, “Okay, what this guy is saying is simply not true, I do not believe it?” It makes things so simple sometimes to find the way to untie an impossible knot.
Source, information. If the source is bad, the information is bad. How people approach information they do not want to believe, they typically target the source in their mind.
This confuses them so much, that they forget that they are taking the stance they do not believe the information from the source at all!
I can make myself a more appealing and credible source, but I come here to chill and not really worry about the positioning of my bow tie, and whether or not I remembered to wash my hair this morning.
It does not matter anyway, because by default, no one can believe these things without firsthand evidence.
Firsthand evidence is always available, and comes, if God wants to persuade them. If not, then they will never believe.
As for me, I am right with God, so the Spirit will and does testifies on that, to anyone else with the Spirit. They will and can find themselves in an internal struggle, as this does not mean they are unable to not consider evil about me so as to explain to themselves why they do not believe the information.
But, that is their flesh, and their Spirit is opposed to it.
If my responses/beliefs cannot invalidate your spiritual experience . . . then neither can they validate them!
So far as I know, there is only one “person” I need to believe in to be validated; and his name rhymes with “sneezes rice”!
[because I won’t “believe in you”]:
“I end up talking more about myself and angels, and you become further convinced I am just making everything up.”
The important question is, what is the source of your salvation and validation? What do you boast in? (see Gal 6:14).
“Boiling this down, I have this claim, an extraordinary claim, and you do not believe it.”
It is neither my job nor my authority to validate the spiritual dispensations/experiences of others (sheesh, I should get a parrot!). The issue right now is less in what you are claiming . . . as in how desperately you seem to NEED me to believe it. Again, I have neither the power nor the authority to validate or invalidate it. And faith in this is by no means “salvational”!
“I know you do not believe it.”
In you? In your very private and personal spiritual dispensations??
This is harsh: but is yours now the name one has to believe in to be saved?
“Source, information. If the source is bad, the information is bad. How people approach information they do not want to believe, they typically target the source in their mind.”
Agreed.
Reciprocated.
“It does not matter anyway, because by default, no one can believe these things without firsthand evidence.”
Consider 1 Cor 2:14. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. Usually “firsthand evidence” exists entirely in the realm of flesh. At least part of the reason the crowds found Jesus “as one who spoke with authority” was that the Spirit testified to it — even with people who had no “firsthand evidence”. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned and spiritually validated.
You “being the source” is perhaps at the source of things. God is the source. Truth and Life are the source. And what could we paltry humans possibly do to make God and Truth and Life . . . “more attractive”????
“As for me, I am right with God, so the Spirit will and does testifies on that, to anyone else with the Spirit.”
Just be EXCEEDINGLY wary of setting “belief in me” as the litmus test for the presence of God’s Holy Spirit.
“If my responses/beliefs cannot invalidate your spiritual experience . . . then neither can they validate them!
So far as I know, there is only one “person” I need to believe in to be validated; and his name rhymes with “sneezes rice”!
[because I won’t “believe in you”]:
“I end up talking more about myself and angels, and you become further convinced I am just making everything up.”
The important question is, what is the source of your salvation and validation? What do you boast in? (see Gal 6:14).”
This is literally a child’s game, though feel free to keep it up. It does not bother me.
Validating me or some aspects of what I say is rather absurd, you are mistaken about my reasons for talking on such matters.
I have numerous far fetched real life matters. I have acted as a spy for the CIA running agents! Put that in your pipe and smoke it. I have all sorts of crazy stories that are true.
Most, as far fetched as those are, I can point you to my linkedin, point you to other online sources, explain some details, back up explanations with strong, online sources.
Even the concept of you validating or invalidating my experience is absurd. Who do you think you are, or why do you think I am talking?
All of this, however, is curious and educational to me.
I am trying to understand human beings better.
For instance, I have the routine experience of telling some strangers I come into contact with that I am a “hacker”, and I find they accept that easily enough. Though, the exception here is on “script kiddy” forums where I can literally, lol, not get specific about my background or can find myself in trouble.
Regularly, I get top company recruiters approach me. On the other hand, it is odd how so many do not, yet look to fill that position.
Spy stuff, I normally do not mention, except if I get really drunk, and that was just at one period. As that normally is just to coworkers, they have already seen my resume, and it is impossible to have done the work I have done without some sort of shady connections and activity.
Can people pick up that I am involved in something supermassive, deep, dark, spiritual? Probably, in some cases. Stuff rubs off. The spy and hacking stuff helps there, as that is a plausible excuse, though does not fit the circumstances, it serves as enough of an explanation to avoid much notice.
I got drunk here and there and had long conversations with a coworker who was lifer in intelligence, that was interesting. I started to ask, to see what he thought, if what folks and work I was doing was really US gov and not, say, something or someone else, and as I started to detail specifics of operational behavior… he said, “yes, that is scary stuff”.
That sort of thing I am cautious about, but it is stale. There is no one in jeopardy, and even if someone bad found this, they would only come to dead ends.
It is all very curious to me, is all.
You can chalk up whatever sins of unspirituality, the flesh, the ego, whatever as you wish, however.
I have my own purposes and find these things, at best, silly.
It reminds me of an angel who took the form of a woman. One way “she” was pointing out she was different, was telling me how she went to a store to buy something, and the salesman said, “Do you want to call your husband to come and make the choice”,
Another time she pointed out how a little child would go and comfort her when they were watching a scary movie, saying, “now, now, it is okay”.
She said she found the Machete guy scary. It was astonishing sarcasm.
8 responses to “Where is @Lucifer_rising??”
OMG! It wasn’t my turn to watch him. Now I am worried. For my part of the search, I will search through my house and yards. I will report back if I find him.
Did you check out in the rhubarb??
Maybe he went for a s*** and the crows got him?! (Those damn crows!)
He’s around. There was a bug in the blocking feature, I’ve reset it and ALL blocks have been removed. So note to everyone….if you blocked someone on accident or with intent, you’ll have to redo your blocks – or don’t.
Bluntly, as you are continuing to troll me with your crazy false accusations and remain unwilling to even give me a word of explanation or defense in edge wise, I blocked you.
Like I said elsewhere, it took about six months of your accusations for me to finally do this.
Does this mean “woe is me” because I have “preconceived notions” of when a person is unable to be reached? I do not think so, that is absolutely absurd.
The very concept is patently absurd as you created that statement after I had quoted multiple case examples from Scripture. Common sense, however, also is clear here.
None of this means I blame you. It is my fault. Of course you can not accept these extremely far fetched claims I was making. I should have caught that much earlier and stopped talking about these things when it became clear you would never be able to comprehend them.
For some reason, I suppose because I find the idea of you being a human not plausible, I kept telling you. And you kept inserting these snide, sideways remarks directed at me, personally. You never addressed the actual issues. But, all of this is normal behavior. The reason I normally tell no one these things is because no one can comprehend them, so of course, they can not believe them.
Even I did not believe these things without decades of extensive evidence.
Why did I keep talking? Curiosity, mainly. I thought maybe you would eventually have some kind of answers.
Why did I finally break with this?
A dream from God.
To be quick: basically, I had a bunch of people that were hanging around me because they were hired to do so. Why? Because I was filthy rich and specifically had some kind of extremely powerful and potentially world ending treasure, which I kept with me, and hidden, all the time.
I felt they wanted it, but, I guess, in retrospect, they were just there to protect it. Perhaps. Whatever the case I kept it close to me, and did not trust to give it to them. I was concerned they might try and steal it all the while.
I was the driver and it was my car. They followed me around as passengers.
At one point, one of them betrayed me, betrayed us all, and stole the car. A friend who came with me in all of this and was not one of them hijacked a truck and I went with him. I got on the roof while he drove across lanes to chase the guy down. Then, we got the car back, suffice it to say.
Point being, it is absurd for me to think you or anyone else would have anything to tell me. Only reason you are talking to me is because of the information I have, which you want.
So, why should I continue conversing or taking all the insults?
Am I bad for stopping trying to reach you, to save you? You are not a real person, that is absurd! None of these things you do are real.
You are exactly one, what I have been calling, “angel”.
So absurd is it you keep insisting I worship angels or try and get others to, and other such nonsense.
Your accusations against me are childish and absurd, but I have ignored them for all these months. Feelings wise. I patiently, again and again, tried to reason with you to listen to my explanations and allow me a personal defense, but you are entirely deaf. It is useless talking to you.
Why continue to do so now? Can I save you now and chalk up a mark on my airplane? I do not look at salvation as you do. I see salvation as from God, not man.
I can’t cure you of your deafness, because you have no faith. You have no faith because you are unable to say “I do not know”. You think you know many things which you really do not.
You think you can hear. I can’t make you realize you are deaf and can not hear. If I could, then, maybe your heart of stone would become a real, living heart, and you would turn to God and be healed of your severe spiritual affliction.
But if God does not want you to be healed, what can I do?
Talk to the deaf, dance for the blind?
How is that not a complete absurdity?
Further, ‘if you can’t say anything nice, do not say anything at all’. Distinctly, not a scripture quote.
But, in general, I don’t want to judge people, and I don’t want to tell them how bad their condition really is.
Still, at the very same time, all of this is patently absurd, as you are not even a real person. Back there, somewhere, is a real (non-human) person. Maybe you really believe your background memories are real, if you really have them. Maybe you really believe you are a truck driver. Maybe you have no idea what you are, really. A construct, a vehicle for communication to me, for messaging purposes.
Maybe I should have been upfront about that from the beginning, as I believe you should be more upfront about your beliefs. But, I know you already know these things, and always have.
As for your negative behaviors and words, do they actually happen as some kind of teaching message to me, as a message that is useful? Yes, actually, and I know what they are, though not yet entirely.
A human being would not be that way, but you are not a human being. You are consciously very aware of this facade of accusations you throw at me. You agree with my condemnations of them, because you know I am telling the truth — as you are part of the truth!
But, it does seem that merely talking to you, regardless and continuing to, is part of that message. It does seem that this behavior of yours does tell me I should block you and cease all communications.
I plan to, but I will give this testimony, first, before I do, and maybe other.
A caution is just a caution. Your message seems predominantly about angels, and about you. If God or the spirit of life is what you worship, let your witness be there.
I put effort into these responses and into reading what you have written. There are still several lengthy messages pending. If my responses are just going to bounce off a block Please let me know.
But a final caution: people not affirming or massaging us, is not an attack an accusation or a judgement.
The Truth is what needs to be “right”: not us.
If you are not in this caution Zone then no offense or consternation need be registered.
“A caution is just a caution. Your message seems predominantly about angels, and about you. If God or the spirit of life is what you worship, let your witness be there.
I put effort into these responses and into reading what you have written. There are still several lengthy messages pending. If my responses are just going to bounce off a block Please let me know.”
Yeah, your response seem to be: I do not believe the core of what you are saying about your fantastic claims.
I do not know what you are telling your self there, but nothing you are going to say is going to magically make things which happened to me disappear. You are not going to make people I know disappear.
You attack me, then I defend myself. You attack the details of my circumstances, which has a lot to do about angels, so then I have to talk about angels. It is catch-22. I end up talking more about myself and angels, and you become further convinced I am just making everything up.
You would, of course, balk that I say “you attack me”, as you are very indirect in your accusations. But, this is normal for people to do, who typically communicate indirectly. I strongly doubt your inner thoughts are so indirect.
It is easy to dismiss whole messages outright, by singular observations about the source.
Oh, he said he drinks beer sometimes, and my church believes that no one should ever drink beer, so only the unsaved drink beer. Therefore, everything he says is wrong and not of the church and not of Christ.
Sometimes you can certainly have legitimate ammo. I think me going “fuck you” about accusing people who use undercover names, legends, cover stories and the like you could cite to your self with confidence that this proves I am immoral and certainly then incapable of handling greater matters then you have even ever heard of.
I often boil things down to equivalents. It can help. I try and find the way to untie that gordion knot. Alexander was right, just cut it in half. Others might see his action as showing proof of someone who is lawless.
Boiling this down, I have this claim, an extraordinary claim, and you do not believe it.
I know you do not believe it.
But, do you tell yourself this? Do you boil it down yourself and go, “Okay, what this guy is saying is simply not true, I do not believe it?” It makes things so simple sometimes to find the way to untie an impossible knot.
Source, information. If the source is bad, the information is bad. How people approach information they do not want to believe, they typically target the source in their mind.
This confuses them so much, that they forget that they are taking the stance they do not believe the information from the source at all!
I can make myself a more appealing and credible source, but I come here to chill and not really worry about the positioning of my bow tie, and whether or not I remembered to wash my hair this morning.
It does not matter anyway, because by default, no one can believe these things without firsthand evidence.
Firsthand evidence is always available, and comes, if God wants to persuade them. If not, then they will never believe.
As for me, I am right with God, so the Spirit will and does testifies on that, to anyone else with the Spirit. They will and can find themselves in an internal struggle, as this does not mean they are unable to not consider evil about me so as to explain to themselves why they do not believe the information.
But, that is their flesh, and their Spirit is opposed to it.
Been there, done that. I even have the tshirt.
If my responses/beliefs cannot invalidate your spiritual experience . . . then neither can they validate them!
So far as I know, there is only one “person” I need to believe in to be validated; and his name rhymes with “sneezes rice”!
[because I won’t “believe in you”]:
“I end up talking more about myself and angels, and you become further convinced I am just making everything up.”
The important question is, what is the source of your salvation and validation? What do you boast in? (see Gal 6:14).
“Boiling this down, I have this claim, an extraordinary claim, and you do not believe it.”
It is neither my job nor my authority to validate the spiritual dispensations/experiences of others (sheesh, I should get a parrot!). The issue right now is less in what you are claiming . . . as in how desperately you seem to NEED me to believe it. Again, I have neither the power nor the authority to validate or invalidate it. And faith in this is by no means “salvational”!
“I know you do not believe it.”
In you? In your very private and personal spiritual dispensations??
This is harsh: but is yours now the name one has to believe in to be saved?
“Source, information. If the source is bad, the information is bad. How people approach information they do not want to believe, they typically target the source in their mind.”
Agreed.
Reciprocated.
“It does not matter anyway, because by default, no one can believe these things without firsthand evidence.”
Consider 1 Cor 2:14. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. Usually “firsthand evidence” exists entirely in the realm of flesh. At least part of the reason the crowds found Jesus “as one who spoke with authority” was that the Spirit testified to it — even with people who had no “firsthand evidence”. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned and spiritually validated.
You “being the source” is perhaps at the source of things. God is the source. Truth and Life are the source. And what could we paltry humans possibly do to make God and Truth and Life . . . “more attractive”????
“As for me, I am right with God, so the Spirit will and does testifies on that, to anyone else with the Spirit.”
Just be EXCEEDINGLY wary of setting “belief in me” as the litmus test for the presence of God’s Holy Spirit.
“If my responses/beliefs cannot invalidate your spiritual experience . . . then neither can they validate them!
So far as I know, there is only one “person” I need to believe in to be validated; and his name rhymes with “sneezes rice”!
[because I won’t “believe in you”]:
“I end up talking more about myself and angels, and you become further convinced I am just making everything up.”
The important question is, what is the source of your salvation and validation? What do you boast in? (see Gal 6:14).”
This is literally a child’s game, though feel free to keep it up. It does not bother me.
Validating me or some aspects of what I say is rather absurd, you are mistaken about my reasons for talking on such matters.
I have numerous far fetched real life matters. I have acted as a spy for the CIA running agents! Put that in your pipe and smoke it. I have all sorts of crazy stories that are true.
Most, as far fetched as those are, I can point you to my linkedin, point you to other online sources, explain some details, back up explanations with strong, online sources.
Even the concept of you validating or invalidating my experience is absurd. Who do you think you are, or why do you think I am talking?
All of this, however, is curious and educational to me.
I am trying to understand human beings better.
For instance, I have the routine experience of telling some strangers I come into contact with that I am a “hacker”, and I find they accept that easily enough. Though, the exception here is on “script kiddy” forums where I can literally, lol, not get specific about my background or can find myself in trouble.
Regularly, I get top company recruiters approach me. On the other hand, it is odd how so many do not, yet look to fill that position.
Spy stuff, I normally do not mention, except if I get really drunk, and that was just at one period. As that normally is just to coworkers, they have already seen my resume, and it is impossible to have done the work I have done without some sort of shady connections and activity.
Can people pick up that I am involved in something supermassive, deep, dark, spiritual? Probably, in some cases. Stuff rubs off. The spy and hacking stuff helps there, as that is a plausible excuse, though does not fit the circumstances, it serves as enough of an explanation to avoid much notice.
I got drunk here and there and had long conversations with a coworker who was lifer in intelligence, that was interesting. I started to ask, to see what he thought, if what folks and work I was doing was really US gov and not, say, something or someone else, and as I started to detail specifics of operational behavior… he said, “yes, that is scary stuff”.
That sort of thing I am cautious about, but it is stale. There is no one in jeopardy, and even if someone bad found this, they would only come to dead ends.
It is all very curious to me, is all.
You can chalk up whatever sins of unspirituality, the flesh, the ego, whatever as you wish, however.
I have my own purposes and find these things, at best, silly.
It reminds me of an angel who took the form of a woman. One way “she” was pointing out she was different, was telling me how she went to a store to buy something, and the salesman said, “Do you want to call your husband to come and make the choice”,
Another time she pointed out how a little child would go and comfort her when they were watching a scary movie, saying, “now, now, it is okay”.
She said she found the Machete guy scary. It was astonishing sarcasm.